"I hurt myself today,
To see if I still feel,
I focus on the pain,
The only thing that’s real,
The needle tears a hole,
The old familiar sting,
Try to kill it all away,
But I remember everything,
What have I become?"
- Nine inch nails
The ritual of self-mutilation was never something I would understand. The cutting, stabbing and piercing. The same ritual that exsists between kids and teens was one I could not understand even more. Some say it`s a cry for help. That with cutting their wrists, they are only trying to get other people`s attention. You want to know what I think? I think that kids (and adults for that matter) who practice such self-mutilation are pretty fucking stupid. And I know that`s politically incorrect and that we should feel sorry for them but guess what…if the person is stupid enough to cut their own wrists, then I am smart enough to call that person a fucking asshole.
They want to draw attention? Pick up a broom and sweep the floors. Or go out naked. That`ll get everybody`s attention. Sitting at home, holding your wrist over the sink and staring at the mirror isn`t helping anybody. And is especially not helping you, you fucking jerk.
You want to know the real reason? It`s the surplus society again. Spoiled brats who heared one song too many from Nine inch nails or Eminem and are so dumb that following some stupid lyrics is the brightest thing to do. And please, don`t talk to me about impresionable kids. You`re talking to a guy who STILL sometimes thinks he is flying an x-wing when he rides his bike. And I never ever in my life wanted to mutilate myself. I draw attention in other ways. And it worked. Every single time. While cutting your wrist never works. Ever.
The best way to deal with these losers?
Ignore them. Completely. Do exactly the opposite from what they are expecting you to do. Calling someone`s bluff is usually the best way to stop the bluff. And what if they hurt themselves too much and accidentaly kill themselves? Good riddance.
mal kruto, se ti ne zdi? sicer tudi sama ne razumem prevec tega pojava, ali ipaq..
Meni se zdi njihova krutost oziroma to izsiljevanje bolj hudo.
Have you ever tried to listen to what the people who practice these forms of self-mutilation have to say about why they do it?
From what I gathered from various web forums, their most frequent response (apart from saying that it’s a difficult thing to explain) is that self-mutilation gives them a sense of relief.
I suggest that self-mutilation is the most likely to be practiced by people who, faced with great difficulties in their lives, find themselves unable to cope with the situation in a more constructive way. Cutting themselves gives them something else to focus their attention on — the physical pain of self-mutilation. Since they feel powerless to address the real problems in their lives, the best they can do is try to escape them into the brief but more vivid and immediately present sensation of pain that comes from cutting oneself. Since they feel powerless to alter the world around them, to control or change the difficult circumstances in which they presently find themselves, they turn to the only thing they actually can control and on which they still can vent their frustration — namely, their own bodies. At least by cutting oneself one is active — one is doing something (even though it’s something rather counterproductive), one is not merely a passive object. Cutting, absurd though it may be, restores at least a shred of dignity to a suffering human being by making them an agent, by giving them a sense of control.
But of course, it’s so much easier to dismiss people who suffer as a bunch of losers who don’t deserve pity or sympathy, let alone help. I know quite well the feeling of pleasure one gets from believing that there exists a class of people who can be despised with abandon and without the slightest bit of remorse. I only wish that people chose the objects of their contempt with some more prudence, so that not all of it would end up heaped upon those who have plenty of difficulties to deal with anyway.
I am utterly disgusted by your attitude, you filthy heartless bastard.
Shoveling snow restores a sense of dignity. Going out and helping some old lady across the road restores a sense of dignity.
If your way of restoring your own dignity is hurting yourself, then you have your wires crossed bad.
Anger? You are angry on others and you take it out on yourself? Who else thinks that there are better ways of solving your anger issues?
Shoveling snow restores a sense of dignity. Going out and helping some old lady across the road restores a sense of dignity.
But none of these things are particularly pleasant to do. Shoveling snow is hard work, and helping old ladies is unpleasant if one is an asocial loser. Surely cutting oneself is much easier and more convenient (not that I’ve ever tried, but then I’ve never tried to help an old lady cross the road either).
As for shoveling snow, that’s just a proxy for cutting anyway. Shoveling snow gives you blisters on the hands, which you must then cut. Surely it would be easier to just skip the shoveling part and go straight to the cutting. :]
Anger? You are angry on others and you take it out on yourself?
Well, yes, you know, if one tried to take it out on others instead, these others tend to have a nasty habit of defending themselves, so that oftentimes, taking it out on oneself may well be the only option left. In these days of universal human and even animal rights, there aren’t many options left for venting one’s anger but to turn against oneself.
Jao Domen, včas pa res kozle strelaš.. če bi se dal vse probleme človeštva tko enostavno reševat..
@Mayhem – dokler človek ne ve, da rabi pomoč, potem za tega človeka ni pomoči. In karkoli boš naredil, bo iz njega naredilo samo še večjega upornika in nasprotnika kakršnekoli pomoči.
Meni se zdi ta permisa “Vsem je treba pomagati” malo hecna tisti moment, ko nekdo noče naše pomoči. Siliti nekoga s pomočjo? Bush dela nekaj podobnega v Iraku, pa poglej, kako mu to uspeva.
Ali ne bi bilo boljše usmeriti naše pozornosti na ljudi, ki pomoč deklarativno potrebujejo, kot pa na ljudi, ki naše pomoči deklarativno nočejo? Ne vem če veš, ampak ni bolj groznega, kot da ti za neko osebo, za katero te skrbi, povejo, da si je SPET rezala žile in da je v bolnici. In to je izsiljevanje. Ko imaš okrog polno ljudi (ker ipak ne živimo na antarktiki), pa si tako neumen, da ne boš šel k nekomu na pogovor ampak boš doma poslušal Eminema in se smilil samemu sebi. Ko ti ljudje govorijo, da jih pokliči, kadarkoli boš v stiski, ampak ti si prevelika pizda, da bi zavrtel telefon in dejansko nekoga poklical.
In moja rešitev ni za vse probleme človeštva. Moja rešitev je samo za ta problem. Za rezanje žil. Ki v nobenem primeru ni nekaj, kar bi nekdo podpiral in odobraval. Ne vem zakaj imajo ljudje občutek, da s svojim življenjem pa lahko počnejo RES karkoli si izmislijo. Kje je tukaj občutek za družbeno odgovornost? Ni ga. Pa bi moral biti. Ker če nočeš biti v družbi in če nočeš biti vsaj deloma odgovoren za svoja dejanja in za posledice, ki jih imajo TVOJA dejanja na DRUGE, potem se (grdo povedano) jebi. Takih ljudi nočem imeti ob sebi. Sem jih imel, pa mi je sedaj žal. In če bi moral iti še enkrat čez vse tisto, bi rekel, da naj se nekam spelje in mi da mir. In bi bolj mirno spal kot sem takrat, ko sem bil zraven in (skušal) pomagati. Pa še ona bi mogoče videla, da nima smisla provocirat ljudi, ampak da je bolje, če se zmiga s svoje debele riti in se loti dela, ki ji bo nekaj vračalo. Ne pa da samo jamra in ne naredi čisto nič, da bi bilo zanjo stvar boljša. Ker hej…sej je njen lajf.
Ja, saj pravzaprav ni čudno, če si ljudje raje režejo žile, kot pa da bi se obračali nate po pomoč, saj od tebe po vsem videzu sodeč tako ali tako ne bi dobili drugega kot pridigo o tem, da naj se zmigajo s svoje lene debele riti, se nehajo smiliti sami sebi in gredo kaj delat. S takim nasvetom si res ne morejo kaj dosti pomagati. Če bi jim bilo kaj do tega, da bi kaj naredili, bi s tem že zdavnaj začeli in problema sploh ne bi imeli več.
Meni se zdi ta permisa “Vsem je treba pomagati” malo hecna
Jaz nikoli ne trdim, da je treba pomagati tudi tistim, ki si naše pomoči ne želijo. Pač pa zagovarjam stališče, da je do ljudi, ki trpijo, primerneje in bolj človeško čutiti sočutje in razumevanje kot pa zaničevanje prezir. To še ne pomeni, da smo jim nujno dolžni pomagati (čeprav se mi vsekakor zdi dobro, če jim lahko kako pomagamo, razen če seveda oni tega eksplicitno ne zavračajo).
Ker če nočeš biti v družbi in če nočeš biti vsaj deloma odgovoren za svoja dejanja in za posledice, ki jih imajo TVOJA dejanja na DRUGE, potem se (grdo povedano) jebi.
Človek trpi; edina uteha, ki jo ima, je to, da si občasno malo poreže žile; in ti bi mu rad zdaj še to vzel in to zato, da ne bo treba *tebi* pogled na njegovo trpljenje kalil dušnega miru. Super. To me spominja na Daffya v neki risanki, ko je zaprl nekega psa ven na mraz. Pes je potem prezebal in trkal po oknu, Daffy pa: “Ah, ne prenesem pogleda na trpeco zival…” in zagrne zaveso :)))
Iz mojih izkušenj je ponavadi tako, da ko ljudi vprašaš, če je kaj narobe, samo stresejo z glavo in rečejo, da je vse kul. To ni isto kot Daffy, ker v tem primeru pes ni nič kriv, da je zunaj. In nisem tak človek, da bi odrekal pomoč in da me neka stvar ne bi prizadela. Ampak, še enkrat, rezanje žil je izsiljevanje. Ker imaš toliko različnih možnosti skanalizirati svojo bolečino in jezo in vso negativiteto, da je to res nepotrebno. Daffy je itak idiot 😉
In to, da ti nekdo reče, pojdi kaj delat in se mogoče še toliko potrudi, da ti dejansko našteje stvari, ki bi po njegovem mnenju žilorezalec znal počet in bi ga mogoče še zanimale, je največ kar lahko kdorkoli naredi za sočloveka. Seveda, lažje je furat safer. In poslušat Eminema.
? Piercanje in rezanje ne sodita ravno v isti koš, no. Ne bodimo površno rigorozni!
Pohabljanje je zelo kvadratast izraz za dotični fenomen, sploščen, vsa posploševanja tako, kar povprek, so.
“Bom povedal svoje, obsojal soljudi, ker sem to reč obhodil in sem razsodnejši …”
Blablabla.
Nismo si tako zelo podobni, kot bi ti verjetno rad videl. Ni ravno v tem čar človeštva? Odstopanja, raznolikosti?
Svojo voljo vsak uveljavlja po svojih vzgibih, za nekatere je piercing v jezik, usta, bradavičko, kamorkoli že, zgolj popestritev, preganjanje dolgčasa. Nekdo gre v kino pogledat kak film, kdo drug pač k tattooatorju. So what? Škodi, če že – najhuje, kar se ti lahko zgodi je, da se ranica zagnoji, ali pa da poješ uhan, oboje nesmrtonosno (!)- preverjeno, izključno temu, ki se za to odloča.
Izražajmo se, kot nam paše.
ej, D, hurt je spisal johnny cash; trent od nine inchov ga je zgolj predelal.
@Stalker – BCC pravi ravno obratno. Izvleček:
“2003 – Hurt, a cover of a Nine Inch Nails track, will be remembered as his swansong”
@Zvita – Govorim o samo-poškodbah kot oblikah vzbujanja pozornosti, kamor v določenih primerih spada tudi piercing. In se strinjam, vsak naj se izraža kakor mu paše. S enim majhnim popravkom – naj s tem izražanjem ne muči drugih. Temu se reče “socialna odgovornost”.
Ja, ja.. večni problem “razvitega” sveta.. dolgčas in kako ga pregnati 😛
a se ga kdo kdaj napije? ja. in kakšno stanje je to? (z)mešano. celo malo samopoškodljivo.
pa na zdravje tistim, ki si ne škodujete!
Baudelaire bo vedu:
…v tem gnusnem zverinjaku grehov vseh ljudi,
pa najbolj grd, ostuden, zloben od vsega je
prav ta, ki najbolj tih in miren od zverin je,
pa vendar rad raztreščil zemljo bi v črepinje
in ves ta svet potem pogoltnik bi zehaje;
to Dolgčas je!
drži, original je trentov, johnny ga je uporabil za american prayer. zgolj prikaz selfmutilejšna v javnem oz. blogu. pihniti (zavestno) mimo in ob tem (o)stati. dolgčas?
…oki jz nam ne vem kva povedala sam hočm dodt…recimo postavte se v tista človeka k si pač reže žile al pa si na kakršn kol način škoduje sam sep…mav se postavte v njhivo kožo pa razmislt d niso lih pr pravi d jim pride to sploh na misu…oki po en stran je res d se mal preveč sami sep smiljo pa d so ne vem kaj otročji….pa še polno komentarjev je,sam faak no mal razmislte človeki d se gre en otrok rezat čist tko za brez zvezezato d bi biv v pozornosti ljudi pa d bi mu vsi neki govoril pa ne vem kašne fore…sam vidš se mu iz leta v let iz dneva v dan večajo problemi in od tkrt k se je on sam pozabaval o rezanju žil misli samo na to in kako se bo rešil svoje bolečine v srcu s tem da se poškoduje ne vem na roki ali se pač enostavno ubije…sori sam če jim že kdo hoče pomagat an nj se ne pizdi nanje pa d so fukneni pa nevzgojeni tisti k lohka vse dobije pa ne vem kašne fore…raj se pogovite z njim poslušte mjbi bo pomagal če ni človk preveč zabredu u to pizderijo